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Post by Ashara Starkwood on Oct 5, 2018 5:12:32 GMT 1
Occam's razor in ASOIAF?! Preposterous. William of Ockham lived approximately 1287–1347 so it is a perfectly appropriate way of thinking for the setting. 
That being said, it is one of the most misunderstood and misused bits of philosophy in existence... 
Assuming that Addam isn't completely wrong, of course.  Well, yes. He *did* crit-fail the roll, so the intelligence *is* rather dubious, but still, the thought was amusing enough that I thought I'd point it out. Oh, did he? I hadn't looked. Yeah, this could lead to all sorts of hilarious places... |
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Oct 5, 2018 5:29:16 GMT 1
Post by Parmen Redwyne on Oct 5, 2018 5:29:16 GMT 1
Assuming that Addam isn't completely wrong, of course. Well, yes. He *did* crit-fail the roll, so the intelligence *is* rather dubious, but still, the thought was amusing enough that I thought I'd point it out. Ah, but maybe thats what he wants you to think. |
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Post by Roland Cordwayner on Oct 5, 2018 9:08:18 GMT 1
Surely House Starling of all houses wouldn't honourably charge off in the wrong direction due to some intrigue.  |
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Post by Father on Oct 5, 2018 15:31:16 GMT 1
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Post by Roland Cordwayner on Oct 8, 2018 11:55:45 GMT 1
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Oct 8, 2018 18:20:53 GMT 1
Post by Ashara Starkwood on Oct 8, 2018 18:20:53 GMT 1
Hopefully he can find something more useful than I, so far it's the same ground covered though I fully admit I had an ulterior motive in the meeting, in truth I did not expect to get anything useful out her except maybe to eliminate her as a suspect. Given her contentment with the current stalemate, I am reasonably sure she wasn't behind it, and while OOC I have a very short list of suspects, IC Ashara isn't anywhere as close.
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Oct 9, 2018 3:21:13 GMT 1
Post by Malyk on Oct 9, 2018 3:21:13 GMT 1
Hopefully he can find something more useful than I, so far it's the same ground covered though I fully admit I had an ulterior motive in the meeting, in truth I did not expect to get anything useful out her except maybe to eliminate her as a suspect. Given her contentment with the current stalemate, I am reasonably sure she wasn't behind it, and while OOC I have a very short list of suspects, IC Ashara isn't anywhere as close. I honestly don't expect to get any farther than you, if even that far. Still, I personally think the 'kidnap her to find out who told her the rumor' is tissue paper thin.
My personal favorites are the 'I must have her.' scenario or the 'I shall save her from marrying that beast.' scenario.... but I'm a jaded romantic.
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Oct 9, 2018 4:16:34 GMT 1
Post by Ashara Starkwood on Oct 9, 2018 4:16:34 GMT 1
Hopefully he can find something more useful than I, so far it's the same ground covered though I fully admit I had an ulterior motive in the meeting, in truth I did not expect to get anything useful out her except maybe to eliminate her as a suspect. Given her contentment with the current stalemate, I am reasonably sure she wasn't behind it, and while OOC I have a very short list of suspects, IC Ashara isn't anywhere as close. I honestly don't expect to get any farther than you, if even that far. Still, I personally think the 'kidnap her to find out who told her the rumor' is tissue paper thin.
My personal favorites are the 'I must have her.' scenario or the 'I shall save her from marrying that beast.' scenario.... but I'm a jaded romantic.
Agreed on the rumor explanation being paper thin.
I think the "kill her and make my daughter marry him instead so I can get his fortune" is the most plausible... but I'm a jaded altruist.
Like I said - short list. Wants Merryweather money, has an unwed daughter, willing to kill, willing to sell daughter into pseudo-sex slavery.
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Oct 9, 2018 4:18:46 GMT 1
Post by Balon Blackbriar on Oct 9, 2018 4:18:46 GMT 1
Agreed on the rumor explanation being paper thin.
I think the "kill her and make my daughter marry him instead so I can get his fortune" is the most plausible... but I'm a jaded altruist. Like I said - short list. Wants Merryweather money, has an unwed daughter, willing to kill, willing to sell daughter into pseudo-sex slavery. Alliser Levalle (shortened that up for you.  ) |
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Oct 9, 2018 4:22:08 GMT 1
Post by Ashara Starkwood on Oct 9, 2018 4:22:08 GMT 1
Agreed on the rumor explanation being paper thin.
I think the "kill her and make my daughter marry him instead so I can get his fortune" is the most plausible... but I'm a jaded altruist. Like I said - short list. Wants Merryweather money, has an unwed daughter, willing to kill, willing to sell daughter into pseudo-sex slavery. Alliser Levalle (shortened that up for you. )OOC he's high on the list. That's based on OOC info though. Same with Lord Florent, but I have other reasons to doubt it was him. |
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Oct 9, 2018 10:43:01 GMT 1
Post by Roland Cordwayner on Oct 9, 2018 10:43:01 GMT 1
Someone could see if a Cunning (Logic) roll offers an hints from the narrator based on PC interpreting clues they've gathered so far? Good way to combine PC's abilities with work you've done IC to put together clues.
Cunning (logic)
"You may test Cunning to solve riddles, puzzles, and other problems of logic. You might use Logic to figure out an enemy’s plan from a series of unrelated movements, or you might use it to assess the currents of a noble’s court to identify conspiracies and the web of alliances. The test’s Difficulty depends on the complexity and size of the problem you wish to solve. Generally, most riddles are Formidable (12)."
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Post by Ashara Starkwood on Oct 9, 2018 16:54:42 GMT 1
Someone could see if a Cunning (Logic) roll offers an hints from the narrator based on PC interpreting clues they've gathered so far? Good way to combine PC's abilities with work you've done IC to put together clues. Eh, I don't think there's really enough for Ashara to go on for that. Maybe Malyk knows more and it would be appropriate for him, but Ashara's pseudo-Prejudice against men, particularly those in power, means she sees pretty much any Lord with an unwed/unbetrothed non-heir daughter as a potential suspect. IC she knows the history of Lord Alliser (how could she not, with Laena as her cousin), but she sees him as an exemplar of powerful men, not an abnormality, so he doesnt stand out as a potential culprit.
IC she's more suspecting of Lord Caswell, as he has need of money, as opposed to simply wanting wealth for it's own sake... and even then she was quite willing to try and arrange a secret deal between him, Lady Alicent, and Lord Merryweather to resolve the stalemate... it's unlikely that short of a confession the culprit will ever be caught, so the practical thing to do is to try and resolve everyone's needs to prevent further attacks.
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Oct 9, 2018 17:13:05 GMT 1
Post by Roland Cordwayner on Oct 9, 2018 17:13:05 GMT 1
Think I'm in a similar boat - OOC suspicions of our Lord Levalle, but need a trigger IC to take moves there. That said, won't take much to push Roland in that direction as Lord Levalle is Reviled (drawback)!
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Oct 10, 2018 9:57:04 GMT 1
Post by Roland Cordwayner on Oct 10, 2018 9:57:04 GMT 1
Crikey, the mysterious stranger has 6d6k4 deception! greatbastards.boards.net/post/9516/threadHopefully it is someone frightening like Bloodraven, with a telltale glamour and Roland can hope to escorting Arya home instead of getting stabbed and left in a ditch. |
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Oct 11, 2018 3:26:29 GMT 1
Post by Alliser on Oct 11, 2018 3:26:29 GMT 1
Ok. I think I am all caught up. Sorry for the delays.
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