|
Post by Father on Dec 4, 2019 21:06:41 GMT 1
Practically speaking, I'm not really sure if there's more information to be dredged up that I'm able to come up with. Also generally more prudent to have one roll with assists (and no real difference between a result of 12 and 13).
|
|
|
Post by Mikel of Harroway on Dec 14, 2019 7:04:25 GMT 1
Once they had learned what they could they once more rallied among themselves and voiced their thoughts. "I think there are better ways to do this, but they would also be more time consuming and require travel and realistically, our is limited. Perhaps it is time to speak with Lord Mandrake himself?" Mikel looks at Trystane. "A Great Bastard on errantry is true enough. We heard there was some discontent while at Whitewalls and only hoped to help quiet it. Something like that?"
|
|
|
Post by Father on Dec 26, 2019 13:05:32 GMT 1
Time to expedite:
The group can agree on a set path, or individuals may decide to act independently. If someone acts independently, the upper choice in a decision tree happens first (and may thus invalidate later choices).
Option 1: Confront the Lord. -Gaining entry to the castle and be announced Lord Mandrake is an automatic success. --Public confrontation: Call out Lord Mandrake in his own courtyard, simple intrigue (taunt) TN 11 suffices to force him to react. Also resolved as a TN 15 intrigue vs crowd for other effects. -5 Disposition from House Mandrake. -9 Disposition from Lord Mandrake. This results in public humiliation of Lord Mandrake. --Private confrontation: Automatic success on audience test. ---Simple Intrigue TN 17 to make him agree to let you take her with you, choice of technique and effects: ----Intimidate: -5 Disposition from Lord Mandrake. ----Taunt: -5 Disposition from Lord Mandrake. ----Convince: -2 Disposition from Lord Mandrake. ----Bargain: Must promise a minor favor to him on a success, objective achieved on a simple failure at the cost of a major favor promised.
Option 2: Cloak and Dagger. -Dupe Lord Mandrake: As private confrontation, but Simple intrigue (Bluff) TN 12 vs Lord Mandrake, can offer minor favor for +1D to the test. -5 Disposition with Lord Mandrake once he figure out what you've been up to. -Ghiscari Lockstep Drill: Deception (Act) TN 9 to simply go in, take the girl and go as if that's the most natural thing in the world. -5 Disposition from House Mandrake, -9 Disposition from Lord Mandrake once they figures out what you've done. This results in public humiliation of Lord Mandrake. -Sneak your way in: Stealth (any) TN 12, all involved must test individually with no assist possible. --Optional Deception (Disguise) and Stealth (Blend in) TN 9, all involved must test individually with no assist possible, on a success, your identities are hidden. --Critical failure on any one test will botch the attempt and lead to discovery and questions asked. If not succeeding on disguise and blend in but otherwise successful, 5 Disposition from House Mandrake, -9 Disposition from Lord Mandrake. Whichever method selected: ---Find her: Knowledge (Streetwise) TN 9 ----Convince her to come along: Simple Intrigue (convince) TN 9
Considerations for qualities: Decadent: If opting for private confrontation or dupe lord Mandrake, you must test for self-control, on a failure, the refreshments he offers allows him to attempt a simple intrigue (charm) 5d6k4+2, on a success you are prevented from participating (roll/assist) on the simple intrigue against him. Dutiful: +2 on self-control tests to follow an agreed upon plan of action. Honor-Bound: Attempts to compel confronting the lord, attempts to prevent partaking in cloak and dagger. Prejudiced (Cruelty): Attempts to compel using taunt or intimidate. Proud: Test self-control, on a failure you cannot assist or accept assists as normal. On a critical failure, test opposed audience against your companions, upon scoring equal or higher, you pull rank whenever an ability you have 3 ranks or more in is tested. (but you may chose not to use intimidate or taunt, allowing companions override your wishes).
|
|
|
Post by Roland Cordwayner on Dec 26, 2019 13:35:42 GMT 1
Involving a man of Roland's character had consequences, however useful he had unexpectedly proved in uncovering information. The proud young knight was convinced that Honour demanded they confront Lord Mandrake publicly or privately. Not only that, but given his rank he felt he should be the man to do so, unless another boldly wished to simply bully Lord Mandrake or bait him in to acting in to their hands. Burnt Wood at Deeproote - Honourbound (confront Lord Mandrake), Proud TN10: 2#3d6 9 5[OOC: I have Blood of the Andals in Reserve to tweak one of the rolls above if that suits Mikel's IC and OOC plans better. - Failure on Honourbound - predictably, Roland demands a private or public confrontation with Lord Mandrake. - Critical failure on Proud - Roland won't accept or offer assists and demands to lead.]
|
|
|
Post by Mikel of Harroway on Dec 27, 2019 7:57:47 GMT 1
[2.5 Burnt Weirwood] Self Control Test - Will (Ded.) v. TN 15: 5d6k5 15Option 1. Confront the Lord. Public or Private In considering how to continue any and every idea was presented and each man took to something different. The trouble wasn't so much in creating possible plans, but in creating one that each man could get behind. Mikel's preference would have been some half-truth and to put Trystane's bloodline to good use but a half truth didn't sit well with Roland and Mikel knew him to be a man who lived in a way which honored his convictions. Roland's demand to speak was also understandable, especially in relation to Mikel's station. Yet Mikel insisted, just once, that if Roland was willing to allow them to play off each other in confronting the Lord, then that might be the best chance to get the girl back.
[OOC: An interesting situation! Mikel's 'insistence' would OOCly be to see about using that BoTA to make Mikel and Trystane's assistance available to Roland, or if Trystane is better suited to take point then they let him lead. If need be, and sounds like good RP, Mikel can concede to Rolands opinion on a public 'call out' vs a private audience, How does that sound?]
|
|
|
Post by Roland Cordwayner on Dec 27, 2019 9:50:28 GMT 1
[OOC: Mikel or Trystane can use Taunt or Intimidate without Roland pulling rank, or I can use Blood of the Andals to allow Option 2, in which case Roland will likely excuse himself anyway.]
|
|
|
Post by Mikel of Harroway on Dec 28, 2019 9:06:57 GMT 1
[Ooc: Appreciate the clarification! Hadnt realized I misunderstood until I read it. In this case, Mikel would think a private audience better then the "courtyard call out"]
|
|
|
Post by Roland Cordwayner on Dec 28, 2019 12:07:16 GMT 1
[OOC: Private confrontation it is then. Only thing left to settle is whether we want Mikel/Trystane to Intimidate/Taunt (plus an assist from whichever of the two doesn't roll) or if Roland should have a go at an option of his choice with his 3D6.]
|
|
|
Post by Roland Cordwayner on Dec 31, 2019 12:39:35 GMT 1
[OOC: Can Roland try his direct approach and then Mikel and Trystane try bargain when he inevitably screws it up? With Roland presumably suffering the disposition hit from his failed method. Or are we one and done here? Thanks!]
|
|
|
Post by Father on Jan 1, 2020 9:15:22 GMT 1
Only one shot.
|
|
|
Post by Roland Cordwayner on Jan 2, 2020 9:52:40 GMT 1
[OOC: in that case, according to the decision from PM chat it looks like Trystane leading on Taunt or intimidate with Mikel assisting and potentially a point of glory spent.]
|
|
|
Post by Trystane Sand on Mar 19, 2020 0:04:09 GMT 1
[OOC: in that case, according to the decision from PM chat it looks like Trystane leading on Taunt or intimidate with Mikel assisting and potentially a point of glory spent.] [Righto. Let's do it. I am slightly better at Taunt than Intimidate, so will go that route. I have never used Taunt before though, so I would value feedback on the exact angle I should take with it.]
|
|
|
Post by Father on Mar 19, 2020 10:55:43 GMT 1
In broad strokes it involves shaming him into letting her leave with you (she might not want to, but let's take one step at a time). -Suggest that he should prove that the girl is there on her own free will by offering her to leave with you. -Call him out on the hypocrisy of keeping mistresses* while shunting his own sister off to take a septa's vows after one little indecency. -Call on him to back up his words (assume he denies everything) with his sword in a duel of honor.
*This part might be more alleged than actually proven.
Another decision to make is whether to do it out in the open (much easier, but will publicly shame him and thus really, truly, piss him and his house off) or in private (won't piss him off as much, but it's much easier for him to pull lordly rank and just say no when nobody else sees him shamed).
|
|
|
Post by Trystane Sand on Mar 31, 2020 22:49:50 GMT 1
I'm thinking that I should give him the opportunity to speak privately first, but keep in reserve the threat of making it very public if he doesn't co-operate. Mikel, Roland, what do you think?
|
|
|
Post by Father on Mar 31, 2020 22:54:59 GMT 1
The structure of it all is that you only get to do one of the two (you could of course shoot parting words in public if private conversation fails).
|
|