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Post by Laena Pyre on Apr 17, 2019 20:40:28 GMT 1
What kind of insane lord would allow a lowborn woman to become a knight and serve in their house! The insanity! /monocle falls off of eye and into champagne glass A lowborn lord. Lord Coldbrook was a common soldier who got knighted and lorded through personally saving Lord Stark's life, so he really was a perfect lord to accept her.
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Post by Father on Apr 17, 2019 22:24:30 GMT 1
The only part one can be reasonably certain of is that there was a Tourney at Riverrun in the year 124 where women were permitted in the melee, one of them was this character known as The Warrior's Shieldmaiden, who also later were confirmed to partake in the joust as The Anvil Gloom Knight that unhorsed the Blackguard known as The Furious Frey*. Everything else is pretty much old wives' tales and Mushroom's sensationalism. Septon Eustace contents himself with declaring her an abomination whose deeds are best left unmentioned and forgotten by history. Most knights and ladies would tend to agree with Septon Eustace.
*His deeds are much more widely agreed upon, a serial rapist, beating his betrothed, generally not at all a nice guy, lanced his opponent's horse during his trial by combat, but unlike Rennifer, he lost anyway and chose to take the black instead of gelding. Made a bloody escape from the wandering crows and left a trail of burning farmsteads along the Tumblestone until he met his end in single combat to Ser Walton the Giant.
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Apr 17, 2019 22:40:18 GMT 1
Post by Roland Cordwayner on Apr 17, 2019 22:40:18 GMT 1
What kind of insane lord would allow a lowborn woman to become a knight and serve in their house! The insanity! /monocle falls off of eye and into champagne glass A lowborn lord. Lord Coldbrook was a common soldier who got knighted and lorded through personally saving Lord Stark's life, so he really was a perfect lord to accept her. Large influence penalties to both the house with the knighted woman (Coldbrook) and to the House of the knight who elevated her (Tully). I used the core book's "Scandal" suggestion, but if I did it again I would probably double it to 2d6. It was a fine ending to a long running story arc (end of second chronicle, so two full chronicles and an offseason of events). The character concerned of of the Brienne mold - Fighting 4 for much of the game, so not as skilled as the best of the men, but with good physical stats, well chosen benefits and intelligent tactics from the player. She was the second last character standing in the first melee, losing to a fellow PC. Even with all of her great deeds behinds her, the knighting was to a significant extent political. The man who knighted her (Ser Eoric Tully, the heir to Riverrun - I binned most of the muppet reference names) was a Black, supporting Queen Rhaenyra's claim to the throne so there was a natural desire to elevate a woman, and any knight can make a knight. She had truly earned her reward, but still wouldn't have received it if she wasn't a useful political pawn for the Blacks. It had the added benefit of being an act of spite against Ser Eoric's Green supporting father. Even though it was intended as a kindness, it also put a large target on the PC from the many that regarded her as an abomination, an insult. The game stopped not that long after this, so didn't get to fully explore this element.
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Apr 17, 2019 22:49:08 GMT 1
Post by Roland Cordwayner on Apr 17, 2019 22:49:08 GMT 1
Should also add that I like the nod's to Dragon's Dance as unreliable tales and history - lets the narrator wink at/reference the previous game and even use bits that appeal while jettisoning what doesn't work. Plays up to the unreliability of history and sources nicely too. Now to see if Roland learns about any of this IC. As a staunch traditionalist/conservative I doubt it would sit well with him. Laena's mention of the added account reminds me of the various personal messages/private forum posts I got from various PCs - a couple were right early but an entertaining number suggested all sorts of wild candidates. Fun times and all very player driven. "The Warrior's Shieldmaiden" was propaganda by Prince Daemon Targaryen in Dragon's Dance. The Greens didn't have such kind names for the woman in question. Our narrator's character, Ser Theomore Tullison set off the pebbles that doomed the Furious Frey referred to in his post, in typically underhand fashion for the PC.
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Apr 17, 2019 23:25:09 GMT 1
Post by Roland Cordwayner on Apr 17, 2019 23:25:09 GMT 1
If it wasn't entirely clear, getting that +1b involves going into the back rooms. (People can undo that choice if they didn't want to go for that option). Everyone go in to the back rooms, diluting the shame and crowding the rumours thread. Means each PC will be less likely to be found out too, with the added benefit that we miss plot relevant clues via rumours.
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Post by Balon Blackbriar on Apr 17, 2019 23:29:27 GMT 1
Balon will go there so he can ask for directions on how to get away from there.
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Post by Trystane Sand on Apr 18, 2019 2:09:29 GMT 1
Should also add that I like the nod's to Dragon's Dance as unreliable tales and history - lets the narrator wink at/reference the previous game and even use bits that appeal while jettisoning what doesn't work. Plays up to the unreliability of history and sources nicely too. Now to see if Roland learns about any of this IC. As a staunch traditionalist/conservative I doubt it would sit well with him. Laena's mention of the added account reminds me of the various personal messages/private forum posts I got from various PCs - a couple were right early but an entertaining number suggested all sorts of wild candidates. Fun times and all very player driven. "The Warrior's Shieldmaiden" was propaganda by Prince Daemon Targaryen in Dragon's Dance. The Greens didn't have such kind names for the woman in question. Our narrator's character, Ser Theomore Tullison set off the pebbles that doomed the Furious Frey referred to in his post, in typically underhand fashion for the PC. You are bringing back so many memories. Much nostalgia.
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Post by Trystane Sand on Apr 18, 2019 2:11:32 GMT 1
Balon will go there so he can ask for directions on how to get away from there. A likely story.
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Post by Balon Blackbriar on Apr 18, 2019 7:45:13 GMT 1
greatbastards.boards.net/post/20170/threadDrink Like Lord Karl - PC's may one-up each other as long as they make the endurance tests (But the optimal choice is to collectively stop at 16) Who is up for a drinking contest!?
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Apr 18, 2019 14:04:34 GMT 1
Post by Roland Cordwayner on Apr 18, 2019 14:04:34 GMT 1
greatbastards.boards.net/post/20170/threadDrink Like Lord Karl - PC's may one-up each other as long as they make the endurance tests (But the optimal choice is to collectively stop at 16) Who is up for a drinking contest!? Vainglorious compelled Roland to booze his way to 16 drinks, which almost knocked him out! Let's see if a few of us can tie at this level for optimal risk/reward or if someone is bold enough to got a few drinks better. Post coming up after I crunch through the rest of that event. Roland has been through a lot, so this uncharacteristic turn to booze isn't surprising. Building on this, I'm also thinking of having him get involved in wild activity at the Rutting Boar. I was already toying with the idea, and the drawback inspired drinking pushes me towards grief stricken action. He may well opt for a Dornish woman there that looks like Ashara. Might twist the knife and have him ask her to wear a Septa's garments. The uptight young knight is going to work through all sorts of weird issues at once. Being this repressed clearly isn't good for him! Also appreciate the material appropriate double standard - woman are judged much more harshly than men when it comes to the Chivalry v Virtue penalties in that event and elsewhere.
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Post by Laena Pyre on Apr 18, 2019 14:11:39 GMT 1
Only if we get caught.
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Apr 18, 2019 14:27:50 GMT 1
Post by Father on Apr 18, 2019 14:27:50 GMT 1
If players feel like being chivalrous to each other, and competitive besides, they could stop at 16, and keep doing resilience rolls like the Trystane/Redtusk example to see who lasts the longest past 16.
Featured NPC's might join in also.
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Post by Trystane Sand on Apr 18, 2019 18:01:15 GMT 1
I am feeling bolstered by my survival in that contest, and am up for a drinking contest with a PC. Not sure Balon would want to drink with Trystane though, except maybe to poison him. I love that Roland is clearly working through some Stuff TM at the Boar. Also, I feel like this could be apt:
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Post by Titus Blackbriar on Apr 18, 2019 18:11:08 GMT 1
greatbastards.boards.net/post/20170/threadDrink Like Lord Karl - PC's may one-up each other as long as they make the endurance tests (But the optimal choice is to collectively stop at 16) Who is up for a drinking contest!? It's time, brother.
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Post by Balon Blackbriar on Apr 18, 2019 19:08:47 GMT 1
If players feel like being chivalrous to each other, and competitive besides, they could stop at 16, and keep doing resilience rolls like the Trystane/Redtusk example to see who lasts the longest past 16. Featured NPC's might join in also. I'm fine re-doing my alcohol attacks roll if people want to go to 16. Then follow the Trystane/Redtusk example. So I have: Balon Titus Roland Trystane (I'll roll prejudice mainly for RP purposes and base my responses on it and the final results, if that's ok with you.) I'll wait a bit to see if anyone else wants to jump in on this.
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