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Aug 28, 2018 2:34:10 GMT 1
Post by Daeron Wildfyre on Aug 28, 2018 2:34:10 GMT 1
So how much of a dick move is it considered to refuse ransom against a defeated opponent, like in the instance of a dishonorable knight fighting for a reviled lord?
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Aug 28, 2018 3:07:47 GMT 1
Post by Aerion Flowers on Aug 28, 2018 3:07:47 GMT 1
I tell him to go fuck himself. But you may earn an enemy. Side note: can I keep Bloodraven's better horse?
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Aug 28, 2018 5:13:36 GMT 1
Post by Ashara Starkwood on Aug 28, 2018 5:13:36 GMT 1
I'm a bit of a setting nerd. Just an FYI, Cyvasse isn't introduced to Dorne until 299, and doesn't make it to King's Landing until after Joffrey is King. Tyrion doesn't learn the game until he is on the Shy Maid with Young Griff. ( source link) Those who have been to Essos might know it (it's Volantese) but unlikely many do.
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Aug 28, 2018 5:36:35 GMT 1
Post by Balon Blackbriar on Aug 28, 2018 5:36:35 GMT 1
I'm a bit of a setting nerd. Just an FYI, Cyvasse isn't introduced to Dorne until 299, and doesn't make it to King's Landing until after Joffrey is King. Tyrion doesn't learn the game until he is on the Shy Maid with Young Griff. ( source link) Those who have been to Essos might know it (it's Volantese) but unlikely many do. Chinese checkers? Regular checkers? Westerosi board game equivalent (by Hasbro)?
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Aug 28, 2018 5:49:21 GMT 1
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Post by Alliser on Aug 28, 2018 5:49:21 GMT 1
It's kind of like Rubik's cubes in TV shows. It is a stone that should be common knowledge among the player base that is short hand for thinking strategically. It could also have been chess, but I don't think that westeros had chess in it, or nine men's Morris, a more medievalish game but probably with less of a common knowledge base.
Besides, Regyn could have just bought his set from myr.
Or it could be a relic from the fire worshipping ironborn during the dragons dance. (I'm pretty sure I remember Cyvasse being played during dragons dance)
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Post by Father on Aug 28, 2018 6:48:36 GMT 1
If Aerion wants to take a chivalry dip he could keep the horse.
Those fireworshipping ironborn hasn't been made Great Bastards canon, there's a few nods to the tourney at riverrun in the prologue, but for the most part any references will be vague.
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Post by Laena Pyre on Aug 28, 2018 8:53:53 GMT 1
Side note: can I keep Bloodraven's better horse? I wouldn't recommend it. Yes, it's much nicer, but Bloodraven is one of those people you do *not* want as an enemy (to my mind he's *much* more dangerous than someone like Otho), plus if you get the horse through refusing ransom, when you lose, you vastly increase the probability of someone refusing your ransom in turn (since they could hide behind it being 'justice'). As such, you'd be gaining a powerful and intelligent enemy for the mere loan of a horse.
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Aug 28, 2018 12:57:58 GMT 1
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Post by Aerion Flowers on Aug 28, 2018 12:57:58 GMT 1
Pretty bad when your own sister doesn't think you'll make it to the end as winner Very good point though!
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Post by Father on Aug 28, 2018 13:28:00 GMT 1
Odds are that anyone trying that sort of nonsense finds himself facing Lord Tyrell intent on winning that horse back and make a statement that he doesn't want his tournament spoiled any further by Blackguards.
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Aug 28, 2018 13:39:23 GMT 1
Post by Aerion Flowers on Aug 28, 2018 13:39:23 GMT 1
My initial nonsense of keeping it, or the person keeping it after I did? Just for clarity. *whistles innocently*
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Post by Laena Pyre on Aug 28, 2018 13:44:07 GMT 1
Pretty sure he meant you, brother. Refusing ransom is the kind of thing people like Ser Otho do. Don't be like him. Particularly in front of your father figure, in his tournament.
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Post by Aerion Flowers on Aug 28, 2018 13:46:36 GMT 1
Yeah yeah. Ugh, sometimes being a chivalrous knight is no fun. OOC: Starting to appreciate Balon a little bit more!
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Post by Roland Cordwayner on Aug 28, 2018 13:55:55 GMT 1
Think of a trigger for going bad and if it comes up, go bad! Talking of bad, I should probably be banned for rolling for any of the NPCs the narrator cares about. After some good rolls I'm back to serving up filth for the NPCs and helping my bellow PCs through.
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Aug 28, 2018 14:56:56 GMT 1
Post by Ashara Starkwood on Aug 28, 2018 14:56:56 GMT 1
It's kind of like Rubik's cubes in TV shows. It is a stone that should be common knowledge among the player base that is short hand for thinking strategically. It could also have been chess, but I don't think that westeros had chess in it, or nine men's Morris, a more medievalish game but probably with less of a common knowledge base. Interestingly, there have been no mention of any boardgames other than Cyvasse. There are children's games of the play-acting or rough-housing sort, and the Finger Dance is sort of a game... but nothing like chess or NMM, foxes and hounds, draughts/checkers, alquerque, or other historically available medieval games. There are dice and tile gambling games mentioned, but they seem to be simplistic (Timmet the vale clansmen plays tiles), not particularly strategy based. Also interestingly (did I mention I'm a nerd?) while historically tile games were derived from cards, there are no mention of card games in the setting.
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Post by Ashara Starkwood on Aug 28, 2018 14:58:26 GMT 1
Think of a trigger for going bad and if it comes up, go bad! I think every character should have one of those. Except for the ones already bad, that would be redundant.
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