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Post by Mikel of Harroway on Aug 1, 2018 7:52:44 GMT 1
In regards to Ser Roland's heroic's Mikel responds. "I had heard about that, the Lady is lucky it was Ser Roland with her at the time. Is he quite invested in pursuing the matter or have the Tyrell's taken the matter from his hands?" The fight had been four to one Mikel had heard. "His name is certainly on everyone's, I would be surprised if he spent any of his own coin on a drink for the next few days at least."
Mikel nods in understanding. "Such an advantage to always being with those you would fight with, constantly training not just as individuals but as a company. It is a mystery that such an arrangement is not more common." Mikel grins before answering his own thought out loud. "For those who can afford to I should say."
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Post by Daeron Wildfyre on Aug 1, 2018 23:13:20 GMT 1
“Ser Roland played his role in subduing and capturing the surviving assassins, but his role is complete at this point. It’s up to Lord Tyrell to dispense with justice now.
A disciplined cohort of knights is worth more than its weight in gold. When war comes, and I believe that it is coming, nobody will fret so much about the upkeep of knights when their lands are protected and smallfolk unharmed.”
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Post by Ser Donnel Blackbriar on Aug 2, 2018 0:48:37 GMT 1
"Lord Tyrell dispenses justise, but Rolands role is far from over! Women are bound to hysteria, it is well known, so Ser Rolands account of events is the only reliable! His assistance will be invaluable the next days too! You should be proud to serve with such a knight!"
"Money is and remains the biggest concern, but I find that when given civic duties as well, the smallfolk pays up much more willingly! Thus the knights may serve as bailiffs in peace, and still be readily deployed as knights at war! Would not this be a possibility for Lord Starling as well?"
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Post by Daeron Wildfyre on Aug 3, 2018 17:39:02 GMT 1
Daeron gives noncommittal shrugs to both of Donnel’s comments.
“I don’t see the point of a trial in the first place. A few smallfolk got caught by a knight committing murder against a septa and neither of them really seem to deny it. If Lord Tyrell thinks that they have more to say then whip it out of them and be done, but as far as my opinion goes, such people don’t merit a trial.”
“We certainly have our roles in times of peace: keeping the smallfolk in line, pursuing thieves and rapers, deterring bandits, and keeping the neighboring lords from eyeing Lord Starling’s lands too much. Thank the Seven that we don’t have the animosities that the Blackwoods and the Brackens have though. It seems like those two houses have never had a real peace.”
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Post by Ser Donnel Blackbriar on Aug 4, 2018 16:36:10 GMT 1
"Anybody killing prisoners without trial, are murdering without justice. The trial needs to be held, otherwise the jousting will be started out of murder. It is a bad omen." Ser Donnel dissagrees. "The less time you have left, the better time you take. You will come to see that once you have lived for as long as me."
"I only wish the Brackens and Blackwood could stop, but they are caught in an infinite dogfight, until one or both of the houses is driven to extinction."
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Post by Daeron Wildfyre on Aug 5, 2018 1:46:45 GMT 1
Daeron offers other noncommittal shrug, but gives no verbal response.
"The smallfolk deserve our protection against violence, but they don't deserve the same justice as their betters."
"Aye, the untimely death of Ser Daven is an ill omen, especially at this time of high tension. War is coming to the Seven Kingdoms and these actions are its harbingers."
Daeron leans in to the other men to share his gossip, but his stage whisper was loud enough to be heard throughout the entire bathhouse. Similarly the smell of ale on his breath was a good indicator of why the man was unable to control his volume as well as he thought.
"I know Aegor. He's a deeply unpleasant and bitter man, but he's no kinslayer. Bloodraven on the other hand...
Let's just say that I could see him murdering a knight and planting a rumor coming out of Bittersteel's camp. I think he wants to force Daemon's hand and start the war early to preempt Blackfyre's support."
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Post by Mikel of Harroway on Aug 5, 2018 7:57:28 GMT 1
Mikel nods at the further talk of a standing company of Knights. "Such would be worth every last penny." He looked between each as they spoke on their thoughts towards justice and the murderers and voiced his opinion. "I agree with both of you in a way. There should be a trial as Ser Donnel said but once it is over justice should be conducted swiftly. Especially in a situation where it is known what happened with absolute certainty. As to your concern about small folk receiving the same justice, Ser Daeron, you may rest easily there. If one has the right blood they are rarely held accountable. Especially if it is at the expense of those who truly hold us all up - the small folk."
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Post by Ser Donnel Blackbriar on Aug 5, 2018 13:17:08 GMT 1
"You know Aegor well?" Ser Donnel asks.
"Start a war?" Ser Donnel asks the other man. "A war would serve nobody." Ser Donnel states. "I would advice against speaking such words. Words spoken in conjecture has a strange way of leading to the very thing they seek to avoid, as men act preemptively." Ser Donnels voice is stern as he corrects the knight.
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Post by Daeron Wildfyre on Aug 6, 2018 6:18:01 GMT 1
OOC: I use italics to show Daeron’s thoughts and bold for his words. Daeron gives a disapproving grunt at Mikel’s suggestion that smallfolk are the ones who hold up society, but holds his peace. He came to make friends, not debate social hierarchies.
“Aye. We shared some time together at court in our youth. Even then he was... irritable, upright, but irritable.”
Despite Ser Donnel’s rebuke, Daeron stands his ground.
“I do not wish for war, but I fear my royal father siring children with every maiden in the kingdom except his own wife made that a likely outcome.
Daeron isn’t likely to surrender the throne, he’d be mad to do so given that he already holds it. Likewise, Daemon has a strong claim to The Iron Throne, and to not press it is to let his inheritance slip through his hands, an equally mad action.
As I see it, it’s just a matter of time before two sane men begin what will be a mad war.”
Daeron’s tone is surprisingly non-combative and factual, as if he was explaining his expectations that the sun would also rise the next morning.
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Post by Mikel of Harroway on Aug 6, 2018 8:22:50 GMT 1
"Since coming here what we are now discussing has been a subject one cannot escape but I have not heard it put just as you did, Ser Daeron, you stripped all the thoughts and opinions away and presented the bare issue. The originality of it is refreshing but I fear your conclusion of 'when it happens' and not 'if it happens' strikes truth. I hope not, but it seems like many more people with much more influence intend to oppose that hope though. I would ask if this sort of talk is always so thick and persistent in the courtly circles but I assume the answer will not be of any consolation."
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Post by Daeron Wildfyre on Aug 6, 2018 22:29:00 GMT 1
Daeron offers a grim smile,
"I'm not the one to expect consolation from.
Such talk is common in court, it's just padded with enough flowery words and innuendo to prevent any conversation of real importance from happening. Too many lords and ladies at court are too afraid of a public faux-pas to speak truth."
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Post by Ser Donnel Blackbriar on Aug 6, 2018 22:41:41 GMT 1
"The court talks, but happily talks do not decide wars. For my whole life the court has been thick with rumours and fears, but I have rarely seen war. As you say Ser Daeron, the court is rank with deception. Why is war certain, when nothing else at court is certain?" Ser Donnel asks. "I have lived my whole life with little but arguments, not even Aegon could bring this kingdom to war, I have no intention for war to come now!"
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Post by Mikel of Harroway on Aug 9, 2018 7:35:09 GMT 1
"Ser Donnel, I hope that this is no different then other times. Does it feel the same though?" Mikels question is sincere. He makes no secret nor feels any shame at being so new to court.
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Post by Ser Donnel Blackbriar on Aug 9, 2018 11:37:44 GMT 1
"It does not feel the same, not wven close. Before it was so apparent. One side was right, the other one wrong. We all knew who we should support. These days I look more to my children, and see little but confusion. I am no longer ready to fight, because if I fight, I know my family will all risk their lives with me."
Ser Donnel shrugs. "This topic is beyond me, I don't wish to worry about anything beyond my joust on the morrow." Ser Donnel will let the youngsters discuss among themselves, and afterwards he will try to tell a few of his stories of places he has been, and jousts he has fought.
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Post by Mikel of Harroway on Aug 12, 2018 10:09:46 GMT 1
Mikel listened more then spoke but continued asking questions to each man. Questions regarding court life were the dominant subject, but also aspects regarding the rumors of war and matters related to it. He would not condemn any opinions and would try not to offer up his own very often.
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